Not much to celebrate though, as we haven’t had any new sculpt stages in this week! Sorry about that, Hopefully I’ll have something for ya next week.
All we got was the final coloured Hydro-Man cover....
Very nice indeed.
The guys on the forum kindly ran a poll for Vance Astro and I think the results speak for themselves...
Vance Astro/Major Victory: With or Without the shield ?
Without the shield 22% [ 25 ]
With the shield 78% [ 90 ]
So as we near the last 2 weeks of extension confirmations (4 left from EM and me, Plus the 4 from you guys!) I can confirm the horror character is...
WEREWOLF BY NIGHT
A well deserving character IMO, he’s in over 200 comics and has mixed it up with the super-types on many occasions.
I would prefer to present him in his original ‘small head’ version than some of the modern takes, I feel they just make him look like any other generic lycanthrope...
And now for the final female in the extension....
GAMORA
Another cosmic I know, but she’s pretty hot and really needs to be made! I’m on the fence with the costume on this one! I like the original look, but can see the love for the newer look – there’s only one way to find out FIGHT!.....
Will definitely have the competiton ironed out for next week – and the polls can start running aswell.
See you in the Funny papers* (*comments section) – Dan
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While I'm usually a passionate supporter of classic costumes, but in Gamora's case I agree that her modern costume would make a better figurine. I hope my mock-up will help Dan and other collectors see that modern Gamora is the way to go. The cloak, the sword and the sleek costume create a sumptuous, high-impact figurine. What's more, this is a good case where the modern costume does not make her look like a completely new character. She still has the iconic patterns on her face. The design is a successful modernisation of her classic costume, and she is still instantly recognisable as the Gamora we all love.
"Its like when a character gets recommended & most people are like.. who? then all the sudden theirs a massive campaign to get them included, its probably just 1 or 2 people with multiple accounts that are behind the whole campaign."
Jinx, have you met Leigh, yet? Sorry, that "joke" will make more sense in a week or two. You sound kindred spirits!
Kirlian Eyes presents
AN AMAZING VIRTUAL PREVIEW:
THE CMFC EXTENSION 181-194
CMFC EXTENSION PREVIEW
including:
Firelord, Gamora, Hammerhead
Hela, Longshot, Mirage,
Moonstone, Owl, Sebastian Shaw,
Spider-Man 2099, Swordsman,
Vance Astro, Werefolf by Night
and Wiccan. Enjoy the preview!
I'm sure you will agree, this mock-up clearly shows that Dan has given us a pretty awesome extension. I can't wait to have all these figurines in my display.
@ ROBERT. no not met leigh yet . im a tad confused by the joke part of your comment, am i missing something?
The only thing that bugs me on the forum is the mods and high frequency posters tend to decide which of the mods or high frequency posters turn it is to have their favourite in the collection and they will all vote for that character whether they like them or not. Around vote time you regularly see posts like 'I'm giving a vote to ? because ? has been campaigning for him for ages and ? deserves to have his favourite character in'.
This can get a relatively minor character artificially high up the charts.
I get every Marvel character ordered to my comic guy from Diamond. I was worried that, in the fact that I can't actually subscribe in the U.S., I wasn't contributing to showing EM a steady buyer. So I'm glad he pointed out I'm doing all I can to show the accountants high numbers.
As per the Trapster/Paste Pot Pete comment, I was going to say, I loved how that list started and ended with Trapster. :D
Deadpool: I knew if there was ONE person on here that agreed with me on Gamora's costume, it was you. ;) Your Python looks incredible. haha
Kirly, also thank you for the virtual modern Gamora. A lot of people forget that the new look has the sword (which EM loves... and so do I.)
And I'm going to end on the thought of...
I'm really hoping for High Evolutionary, Paladin and others to be the first announced in the next extension, but for now, I just want confirmation on Trapster. Close off that grouping so we know its done and we can move onto other areas with a fresh outlook. The guy's a classic to boot! and raked in 252 appearances (I know others have more. I'm just saying he's one of the big guns.)
ps, second day and we're already on page 2?! 206 comments. Wow. :D
Sorry, Jinx, should have explained that in-joke. Leigh (a.k.a. LaWay) is a good guy but a rather suspicious type and often sees underhand shenanigans behind everything that Eaglemoss do. Your comment about multiple blogging sounded quite like him. No offense meant, just ribbing you. :)
I'd be very happy with Trapster.
Am I allowed to ask for him in classic outfit, John...? ;)
@ SPIDEY 1979. oh so its like a secret shakey hand club. you scratch their back & they scratch yours kind of thing. maybe only subscribers should get a vote.. i doubt people would subscribe twice just to corrupt the votes. but thats a tad unfair for those who cant subscribe for whatever reason. i guess theirs no way round it then.
"This can get a relatively minor character artificially high up the charts."
Agreed. It really ticks me off as well. Although, the good news for me is that I tend to think most of the highly campaigned ones are also very worthy. Swordsman from Captain Nikos, Grey Gargoyle from Bomber, Phyla-Vell from Buffduffdan, Beyonder from Travis, Rocket Raccoon from *cough cough* Agents of Atlas... Its just when you get into the few characters I don't like, like Longshot or White Tiger...
But you see the same thing on here. Every other post by Tino is about Whirlwind. I'm fine with it because I like Whirlwind. Not a favorite, but most of my favorites won't make it anyway (oh, so sad... woah is me, etc, etc...) Ted goes on and on about Bloodstone.
But the ones that actually get the backing are usually ones that others want as well. Same as here.
"Am I allowed to ask for him in classic outfit, John...? ;)"
You know what Robert, Haha, Trapster is actually another favorite of mine as I'm a huge FF fan as well (Waid and Aguirre-Sacasa more than anyone else) and... ready for it?... hate the old costume, yet love the bald look with goggles. :D
But as much as I love Trapster, he's nothing to me compared to Gamora. So you can have him. LOL
@ ROBERT . oh LAWay. ive read a few comments lol i wasnt offended i was just unsure what you meant :) ive followed this blog since a few months before dan took over. yes im always suspicious its in my nature & have become well aware from online gaming that most of the younger people will do whatever it takes to get around rules. sad but true.
I was nodding along with what you said about favourites, John. I'm a big fan of the Recorder - maybe you noticed? - but I have never campaigned for him and have zero expectation of him appearing because I know he has very, very limited appeal. I have the same position on Pip, another favourite.
And finally, I wanted to point out something about these costume bouts we've been having lately.
I think it's very interesting, personally, the way our minds work on these things. In most cases, there's a pretty clear cut case on which costume a character should have... what is their truly 'classic' costume? Punisher's first look is slightly dated, but he was made in the look that he's been most famous in. Thanos has had a few costumes, but was created in his most iconic. Etc. No brainers.
But then you have a few characters that operated a LOT in either a different area of the MU or a different era. And these are where the decision gets so split. I honestly always thought that the two biggest costume debates were going to be Moonstone and Gamora, and surprisingly enough, we get the two relatively close to announcement date.
Moonstone being a Master of Evil and a Thunderbolt. Gamora being a HUGE player, then off the board, then a HUGE player. Each retained similar, yet very different looks. And both being fan favorites of each grouping. It makes it tough... People are GOING to be disappointed.
At least with next extension, High Evolutionary only has one logical look. As does Patriot, Paladin, Jackal, Tombstone and many other of the next top contenders. Would anyone complain if I campaign Namora in her Agent of Atlas costume? ;)
Hey again,
thanks tinodragon14 for pointing that out, had no idea they where they same character.
After two(i think) bottles of vino calapso my Question to to ALL is ----
"WHEN WOULD YOU STOP BUYING THIS COLLECTION?"
Red wine has a lot answer for, took me about 20 minutes to type this, serious hangover in the morning!!!!
I would stop whenever EM stops. I love the MU a lot, and feel every character has their place. EM is amazing at producing sculpts, high quality at an affordable price. This collection is probably the thing I look forward to the most as far as entertainment is concerned.
If comments about Rocket Raccoon and Agents of Atlas not appearing any time soon, if at all... the increased price from Diamond... and getting certain characters in costumes I don't like... if that's not turning me away, I doubt anything else will.
Dear Dan,
I'm confidant this magnificent collection can continue bringing in a new fan base as long as you give it enough market exposure and continue to make fine lead figurines.
I started collecting the CFMC rather late (starting collecting when issue/character #120 was just coming out). My first ever figurine was Doomsday because it was so beautifully done and perfect for my studio and inexpensive compared to te Bowen statues. It open the door to the Marvel line and I'm such a huge fan of Marvel. I was obsessed with catching up and buying all the previous figurines I missed out on, so I paid a premium on various websites and scoured specialty comic shops throughout my city, and now I'm happy and proud to say I have the entire collection up to date. So, for the sake of all thel fans out there, please PLEASE have at least another extension and PLEASE include the High Evolutionary, Deathbird and Jigsaw and Terrax and Mojo before the collection ends!
-Ken
P.S. I'm from the US, so it's doubly hard for us to get the figurines since we can't subscribe but I go out of my way to get this entire collection! :0)
Hi, Bagman F.F.F.!
To answer your question, after giving up modern comics this year, I've reassessed the CMFC as well. I think if you offered me the money I have shelled out over the years for this collection in credit for back issues, I'd go for it. Not so long ago I only skipped the modern X-characters who I don't know, now I'm getting increasingly picky and have half-heartedly thought a few times that I might stop completely.
I don't mind the campaigning and people voting for a character if they actually want the character. It's when characters get extra votes just because of WHO is campaigning for them. It makes the poll less about popular characters and more about popular posters.
Great to hear Shaman is in. Another team ticked off the list. Lockjaw would complete another, hint, hint.
The next extension which will happen, let's be optimistic, should concentrate on GotG old and new. Three or four from those teams will be a good start.
BTW, so nice to hear The Goon Raper's puffed up, self-important, moralising hypocrisy once more. I'd like the collection to go on forever, but when it ends the only benefit is that it will cut that bumptious, preening, sycophant off at the knees.
My ears are burning. Did someone use my name to make a point? John? John was that you?? I have this feeling of being in a WHIRLWIND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
funny how it's no longer about the collection but has to resort to personal attacks. ah well -
for the record:
I couldn't care less what you mgf/gort/gaius/martin whatever you want to call yourself, and the wee jock think...you just show your true colours: foul mouthed, egotistical cyber-bullies who are very brave behind a keyboard and stamp and scream when things don't go your way...just like spoilt little children.
Sensible collectors need only read your previous spoutings to understand why you are not welcome on the forum...
you had your chances and EVERY time resorted to this kind of assault...sad little men that you are.
Thing I find amusing is that there are some great guys on here with a lot of good things to say, some very funny guys that do make me laugh. Unfortunately there are a couple who will continue to spoil it for the majority just so they can be the centre of attention. I pity you.
sorry, i've wasted too much time already on you.
as I say, what you think is insignificant.
(funny word verification "TWO JERKS" how spooky :
HUNDREDS MORE.
The only way is up.
The CMFC can easily go up to 300, or even 500, and still continue
to include characters that are as great as the ones we've had so far.
That's the beauty of the Marvel Universe. I think the collection will only stop if we stop buying figurines. In terms of character choices, EM still have plenty of major names to cover.
SUBSETS.
MARVEL UNIVERSE FILES.
I also think the time is ripe for CMFC subsets, which would help us explore all Marvel Universe areas at a faster pace. In my opinion, subsets don't necessarily have to be dedicated to a major saga like the Blackest Night subset.
It's possible to create coherent thematic subsets, called MARVEL UNIVERSE FILESand these can have mass appeal. For example:
a COSMIC ENTITIES subset including Grandmaster, High Evolutionary, The Beyonder, etc.
Or an ALIEN RACES subset, which would have the flexibility to include a great variety of characters we want, like Yondu (a Centaurian), Marrina (a Plodex), Starfox (a Titan), Starhawk (a Vesperian) and so on.
Or a SUPERNATURAL subset including Baron Mordo, Doctor Voodoo, Nightmare and so on.
I hope Dan and EM will contemplate the production of subsets, as I think they will be commercially successful whilst at the same time helping collectors to get as many characters as possible - which the main CMFC alone cannot do if not in 10 years time.
Yessssss!
We need to complete Alpha Flight so we can move on and work together on other teams.
Shaman
Aurora & Northstar
Completing this team will be good for the collection,because the Alpha fans will go and side with other collectors for other teams then.
Starjammers
Wrecking Crew
X-Force
Asgardians
Thunderbolts
New Mutants
GOTG
We wont be so divided then.
i know what you mean Robert, the flood of X-men we got in such a short time is what made me cancel my subsciption and start cherry picking
i doubt i will ever stop completely especially when EM throw in the odd Gem like Firelord, Gamora and Hela, plus this extension is turning out to be a rather expensive one for me, will be getting nearly all the figs with the exception of X-PooPoo heads and related PooPoo heads
PA
Actually HAMMERHEAD & OWL were favorites of mine to. So are ATTUMA, BARON MORDO, THE COBRA & MR. HYDE, STILT-MAN, MOLTEN MAN, STEGRON, SCARECROW, BLIZZARD, JACK O'LANTERN, TERRAX, DRAGONMAN, THE LIVING MONOLITH, TRAPSTER, THE MELTER, THE EXECUTIONER, CORNELL COTTONMOUTH, NIGHTMARE, QUICKSAND, DIABLO, BLASTAAR, RINGMASTER, TOMBSTONE, PRINCESS PYTHON, THE SUPER ADAPTOID, THE ASGARDIAN DESTROYER, THE ORIGINAL BAD GUY BLACK KNIGHT, THE EEL, THE UNICORN, GRIFFIN, HARPY, THE RED GHOST, THE MAD THINKER & HIS A.A., THE ENFORCERS, MR. FEAR, THE LIVING LASER, PUMA, MASTERMIND, IRON MONGER, TITANIUM MAN & YES WHIRLWIND. I'm sure I missed a few but I realize a number of these like STEGRON, QUICKSAND, CORNELL COTTONMOUTH have little or no chance of making it in & then there are the others who are the Special or Mega-Special sized guys like TERRAX, DRAGONMAN, THE LIVING MONOLITH, BLASTAAR & then there are those who are considered second tier villains whether I agree or not like STILT-MAN, SCARECROW, RINGMASTER but there are still main villains aplenty like ATTUMA, BARON MORDO, THE COBRA & MR. HYDE & YES WHIRLWIND. I have promoted all of these villains on this blog & they will make great figures but as the number of choices gets smaller until now we are down to one hard as it is to pick from so many great villains as if this was the last extension I would really like to see a WHIRLWIND figure.
In reading Dan the Man's comments on the blog if there is another extension he has already committed to THE JACKAL & THE HIGH EVOLUTIONARY being in it so that already shrinks the chances of other villains I supported more getting in. Since there was only one Spidey villain in this extension that means if there is another extension then the JACKAL is it & TOMBSTONE, MOLTEN MAN & JACK O'LANTERN have no chance of being picked. With the HIGH EVOLUTIONARY in that means other top tier villains like ATTUMA, BARON MORDO, THE COBRA & MR. HYDE & WHIRLWIND are less likely to be picked & I think TRAPSTER has a good shot at being picked as the FF villain in the next extension so I pick WHIRLWIND for now.
Yep, some great folk in the new extension, Adam. Hela in particular is going to look cool.
Anyway, is it bedtime in the U.S. of A.? I'm still waiting on CBR Beast explaining to me how Balder's old looks were silly and yet talking, gun-toting raccoons are not. Been metaphorically scratching my head and literally chucking on-and-off most of the day with that one...
It's 200 figurines, but EM should know we are still hungry, and this collection can exist till #400 without any problems. Still we will buy it (many Marvel fans just started, because they didn't know about existing CMFC), because there are so many important characters still no confirmed.
One or two things I wanted to comment on from scanning the recent posts.
Firstly, Bagman approached THAT subject that we all think about, but feel a little guilty to mention...namely, when would we personally call it a day for continued collecting....
Hmmmm...must admit I've been staring at by bulging IKEA display stands, thinking where to put the next lot of figs, more and more recently. I'm not buying another cabinet-that's for sure- couldn't do that to my dear wife (she's cool, but everyone has a limit!). I am therefore seriously considering dropping the DC line. Most of the newer ones are just Legacy characters, or in the case of BN/BD Sub-set, people I've never heard of (they're cute figures-but do I really need them??).
As for Marvel, I'm still enjoying the choices coming up at the moment- but once it starts scraping the barrel with more and more D-listers, then I think I'll call it a day- and 'cherry-pick' from FP.
Got to say, I'm still sulking about the Howard decision. Without him in the collection it'd never be a complete set anyway.... (or without Original Human Torch for that matter!)
The other matter was something Beasty-boy brought up. He often compares the costume choices of the Hasbro or Marvel Legends- type figures to the EM Collection. Now I may be a little biased here, but, aren't those pose-able plastic figures really aimed more at the younger generation anyway? This is the reason why the companies would pick the newer costumes/ looks, to appeal to their chosen market. The EM collection are definitely not toys, and in the most part are aimed at '25- 50 somethings', with a little more of a discerning taste....Personally, I would be more inclined to compare the EM market to the Bowen one- that's a far more compatible match.
Anyway...just a few observations..
BD
PS....see you guys in a while...play nice!
complety agree: "The EM collection are definitely not toys, and in the most part are aimed at '25- 50 somethings', with a little more of a discerning taste....Personally, I would be more inclined to compare the EM market to the Bowen one- that's a far more compatible match."
Actually no, the figure lines are aimed at the older fans just as much. And have delivered stuff such as 1st Appearance Ms. Marvel, 1st Appearance Daredevil, 1st Appearance Havok, 1st Appearance Captain Britain, Mystique (White Outfit), Star-Lord, Rocket Raccoon & Groot, Archangel, Namor (Speedo), Constrictor, Darkhawk, The Entire Wrecking Crew, Silver Samurai, and many many other characters and costume choices that you guys are always asking for. So no, I wouldn't say that at all.
Plus the price point is comparable. Where as Bowen is certainly not, being they are more high-end collectibles. So no, I think the comparison is a more than just one.
I second that the EM figurines aren't toys. I never really like posable action figures, even as a child.
Now, at 30, when I saw the CMFC for the first time at a friend's house, my jaw just dropped..I thought "Man, I gotta have this".
So yeah, I think there's a big difference...and if there's a GOD, there will be many more extensions. So many characters I love left to be made!
Now that the furore has settled down regarding costumes.
Check out my latest mods on my Marvel Customs blog.
Princess P may catch your eye and may encourage the Mossmen to "Do her" as a figurine.
Sounds like suspicious shenanigans if you ask me.
ok guys...proof if you ever need it straight from Dan's mouth.
SUBSCRIPTION NUMBERS!
If they drop, the collection drops. It is kept alive by subscription numbers and the good folk that distribute to the US. So unless you are subscribed in the UK, you are not doing your bit. Forbidden Planet and local comicbook shop my @ss. Dan said subscription numbers, and if you love the collection and buy every figurine, why take the risk?
Like someone else mentioned, like we have suggested before Dan...subscription exclusives. Once a year...twice a year...that would be more than enough to justify a subscription. If people feel left out I highly doubt they will quit collecting. Just curse and go on ebay complaining about the prices.
VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
ps - my game didnt last very long did it? Thanks for playing anyway john.
Subscription Exclusives don't really work. As they exclude those who can't subscribe. Or have had issues with subscribing because of breakages or payment issues. So it's not a good avenue for the collection either.
Are you blind? The hot air of excuses fogging up your glasses?
Dan SAID the collection relies on subscription numbers. Nuff said.
Cant subscribe? Why not? Everyone in the UK can. If you cant afford it, then you are not buying every issue anyway.
If you are american, then sorry, subscription isnt available. Still continue to collect the rest of the collection. Nothing really changes.
Dont want to subscribe? Your own fault. I have had a breakage and EM handled the situation wonderfully. Only problem I have ever encountered.
Payment issues? no idea what you mean. If you are in the UK and have a bank account, simple. If you cant afford it, a cheaper deal than buying them from your comicbook store due (reduced prices, no travelling fee etc) then again, you must not be buying every figure and thus you are invalid from this idea.
The question is, if you buy every issue, and EM offered subscribers only 1 exclusive a year, would you subscribe, knowing that subscription numbers are what keeps it afloat?
I dont see any negatives really. Its bad luck being american, but other than that, if you are in the UK and dont subscribe, its clearly your own fault.
-not a good avenue?
and incentive to boost subscription sales, thus keeping the collection going longer.
its an immense avenue to visit. ideas like this win the Apprentice.
"Subscription matters", very true LAway, but other than offering one free gift a year, how would you go about increasing subscription numbers?
How do you go about reaching the International market?
Bagman,
The first time I saw these figurines was at a comic book shop in NYC and the moment I saw them I said to myself, "How many are there for Marvel? And I need to get my hands on all of them". All EM needs to do is market it and increase exposure....maybe advertise in comic books and magazines? I've had a number of friends drop their jaws in envy when they first saw my collection. All EM needs is exposure, the beautifully crafted figurines will get anyones attention when given the chance! :0)
Wel it would hopefully boost sales in the UK. If it doesnt, scrap it. 1 free figurine for the year and thats all the loss EM made if the effect isnt dramatic.
How does EM solve the US problem? I dunno. Dont know the logistics. They need a deal with a distributer that can get their product into shops at a mass market rather than a couple of issues for certain collectors. If they do that, then the distributer can offer the subscription as long as they are ordering enough from EM.
EM of course needs more exposure. They should be doing the rounds like the San Diego and New York comic cons and toy fares. There could be licensing issues that mean EM cant actually offer this product in the US, or cant offer the subscription.
Of course if they could offer the US subscriptions than it wouldnt be a problem, but it seems like they cant for whatever reason. So before we sort that out, lets sort out our own issue closer to home. If it works, who knows what could happen.
LaWay, you might want to learn to read. Since Dan also said that sales from Diamond matter as well. Just as I assume sales from news agents over in the UK matter. So again, subscriber exclusives is the worst avenue of going to increase sales or numbers. Because it's targeted to only one aspect of the group that keeps the collection going. And again, there are those who choose not to subscribe due to breakages or due to problems with EM when it comes to payment issues. Of course, like usual you ignore half of what is said to try to foster your position. But in the end it's the same reason that polling ballots in the magazines don't work.
Again, a lot of collectors in the UK have run into ridiculous issues with trying to get figurines replaced due to breakages or damage. Or with EM hitting their bank accounts more than once, or for the wrong amounts. That's why a lot of people in the UK choose not to subscribe.
So yes, there's reasons that people would rather not subscribe to the collection who can. They would rather hit their news agent when they can be sure that they're not going to get broken or badly painted pieces. And can pay in person, rather then risk billing errors from EM's side of things.
The Marvel and DC Figurines both show up at the Cons. Thanks in part to Diamond, who regularly includes them in their Diamond Displays. The lead content is why they're only available from Specialty Shops.
Totally with CBR on this one. When Spidey came out, it never even occurred to me to subscribe because I was in FP every week anyway and I just picked up the latest figure when I was in. Then I started hearing about breakages, etc. - MT had some horrendous stories to tell - and realised how lucky I was. It's regrettable that not everyone can subscribe. I'm guessing that the reason may be connected to them being made of lead, but still a shame for collectors outside UK and some other parts of Europe.
Just a note on subscriptions.
I was put off subscribing after reading some horror stories on the old forum. I choose to pay my supplier upfront and take a delivery once every 2-3 months. Cost per figurine is about the same as a subby and courier delivery works perfectly for me.
I understand subscription numbers are the key indicator for continued viability but there must also be a contribution from retailers.
I also collect Marvel Universe 3.75 100% and imo its aimed at collectors first and foremost so I agree with Beasts point regarding costume choices. One of the great things about it is costume choice. Modern 'and' classic Havok for instance.
Not too sure about paper bag head Spidey tho :P
@ LAWay . im 100% with you on this one. try 1 or 2 subscriber variants a year & if it doesnt work then fair enough atleast they tried. certain products are available worldwide that aren't here in the uk so i dont see a problem. it would certainly boost subscribers & keep the existing ones happy. i dont see why EM doesnt have a EBAY outlet to offer overseas buyers the choice too. And one more thing its not really easy for new collectors when theirs figurines on sale with the dreaded "sorry this issue is unavailable" on the main site. colossus, jugs, rhino etc
ive even sold to overseas buyers on ebay they dont seem to mind paying for insured delivery & often pay over the odds so as for damaged figurines then EM are covered. this collection could go worldwide with amazing results with a few relatively easy strategies put in place. EM you have to be aware of how much money could be made just go have a look on ebay & see for yourselves.
Now you're suggesting that EM hire additional staff to run an Ebay store? Where is this money coming from for them to do these things. Rich and Dan have already noted that they run the blog out of the goodness of their hearts. Because there's no room in the budget to do stuff like this. So now you want them to find room for another venture in the increasingly shrinking budget?
gamora costume poll latest
classic..57 ~ 40.7%
modern...83 ~ 59.3%
@ CBR BEAST. your telling me a few off the guys couldn't set up a ebay shop & sell a few figurined as a trial. that negative attitude is not present in good businesses im sorry to say.
I'm from New Orleans, Louisiana in the states & I order my figures through the only local comic book store near me, B.S.I. Comics, & the owner orders them for me through the Diamond Catalog. He tells me they are shipped here from England. I have ordered a few I missed or wanted duplicates of from some online toy or comic book shops. I'm waiting on the latest shipment.
It's called being a realist.
@ CBR BEAST. i respect your opinion but the market is clearly there. if oversease buyers could buy or even subscribe through a EM ebay store im sure many would even if it meant getting the figurines in a 3month bumper pack to keep the postage price down. Ebay is a worldwide port for collectors surely its a avenue worth exploring. thats just my opinion though.
Thanks, Mighty Marvel, for updateing us about the Gamora poll. Disappointed but not in the least surprised that the modern look is winning. Still, do Eaglemoss intend listening to a mere 83 people when thousands buy this collection? It's not even a landslide in this small sample of collectors.
Enjoying reading the debate about other avenues of sales. The collection does seem under-advertised. I'd be curious to know how many late-comers to the collection would have started at issue one if they'd known about it then. And it seems obvious that EM would sell more figurines if they were freely available everywhere. The eBay shop seems a good idea. It, however, depends on an initial outlay on extra staff - as CBR Beast pointed out - but surely the plan would be to recoup this cost in increased sales? The old speculate to accumulate model. There's no guarantee it would be viable but considering the regular complaints from abroad about how hard it is to get the figurines, you would have to say it would not seem a huge gamble on the part of Eaglemoss. Basically, the more the sales stay strong, the longer this collection goes on and the mroe chance we have to see everyone's favourites like Bloodstone, Whirlwind and Stegron.
Correction: "Updating."
Jeez.
@ ROBERT. exactly, i only found this collection by chance on ebay only 6 month ago when i came across taskmaster & my jaw dropped. i would of bought from day 1 but never even seen or heard the figurines in newsagents or stores but have regularly collected part-works so was always browsing those sections.
Jinx, it's been a regular comment for a long time that the collection is not well advertised. (Whether or not it would be financially worthwhile to increase advertising is of course a completely different question.) In the UK, as far as I know, the collection was advertised on tv for a week or two around the launch. I saw the ad two, maybe three times, but I don't really watch tv so it may have appeared a lot. (Maybe someone like Ted or Bob, who are in the UK too, can help.)
I live in Scotland, and the figurine also appeared in a few newsagents in the city of Glasgow and outlying areas for a good while, but as time went on that became increasingly rare and this had stopped somewhere around the end of the first 60 release list. I've no idea if that was replicated in other UK cities.
The figurines are only available in Forbidden Planet stores now and, I think, a comic store in Castlemilk, Glasgow, that also sells the CMFC on eBay. There are three other comic stores in Glasgow and as far as I know they don't even sell the CMFC. Basically, I could shop at the back issue store (City Centre Comics) and buy new comics at A1 Comics (they're almost next door to each other), and not even know about the CMFC!
although this collection is HUGE in terms of popularity its a sleeping giant compared to what it could be if their was a way to make it more available & noticed
Didn't traditional fairytales teach us not to wake sleeping giants...? ;)
that made me laugh :) its more of the BFG category
"Disappointed but not in the least surprised that the modern look is winning. Still, do Eaglemoss intend listening to a mere 83 people when thousands buy this collection? It's not even a landslide in this small sample of collectors."
i understand your disappointment robert. it's the same way i feel about the costume choice of rogue. but with no variants at the moment someone is always going to be upset over a costume choice.
thing is though, you say why should EM listen to a mere 83 people, but the alternative is them listening to an even smaller 57 people.
re advertising of the collection
it wasn't advertised particularly well in the UK at launch. i found out about the collection because a newsagent near my home gets all partwork issue 1s for a week or two and i just happened to go in and see it. saw the advert afterwards but only once or twice.
it's a shame more can't be done about advertising and offering subscriptions in the US. with the size of the market there i'm sure the collection would be safe to #300 and beyond.
I loved being able to do a subscription of CMFC.
I live in Portugal and therefore cannot make a subscription with Eaglemoss.
I bought the older ones on ebay, and now I order the new at Forbidden Planet.
oh completely off topic here.. i was on youtube watching some guys marvel figurine display & in his variant section along with grey hulk red phoenix etc he has what looks like a glass variant of invisible woman, but all my web searches show no results..??? do any of you guys no anything about it?? thanks in advance. jinx
the youtube video in question is titled - classic marvel figurine collection 01 - 120 - word verification subian
To be fair, Mighty Marvel, I've been saying for a day or two that even if the entire forum voted unanimously for something they still represent a small pecentage of the collectors of the CMFC.
Jinx, haven't heard of a clear CMFC Invisible Woman. There was certainly a see-through Bowen Sue Storm a while back, that's all I can recall.
Oh, Jinx, you will see odd CMFC customs on eBay from time to time, including some, ahem, "adult" versions of the female characters.
Watched the video, Jinx, certainly does look like it's a clear Sue Storm, although hard to be certain with the camera juddering so much. Really can't explain what it is so someone else will need to solve this for you.
Some of the organisation of figures is a bit bizarre. Sue Storm next to Phoenix and Captain Marvel?
@ ROBERT, thanks for taking the time to look, i agree on the organisation he seems to have just put them in numerical order & dedicated a section just for variants & specials. i personally would have them in their team groups etc, maybe dan could could clear this one up for us??
"Maybe dan could could clear this one up for us??"
Groan! Awful punning. People get deported for less! :)
ahh you got me.. well spotted :)
Invisible Woman must be a custom ? Looks a really nice one too. Only one I could think of that was even close was Fotomago's clear Iceman.
http://images2.fotoalbum.virgilio.it/v/www1-2/212/212487/396427/Iceman-vi.jpg
Anyone have any more info ?
robert - i agree the forum poll does represent a small percentage of collectors. but very few polls will contact everyone. they mostly work on the basis that if you poll a small representational sample then the results can be extrapolated to tell you what everyone will say. and to be fair, its pretty accurate. the exit polls at the last general election were almost spot on for example.
CBR Beast
Learn to read? I did just that. I even mentioned the diamond/US distribution.
YOU should be the one to learn to read. You ASSUME that Dan meant that the same rules apply in the UK for forbidden planet and other comicbook shops. Dan didnt write that.
You are making assumptions and then stating they are facts. I just read what he said.
The subscription exclusive offer would not 'only' benefit subscribers. Of course it would, but we subscribe, so you can't exactly bad mouth us bud. It would benefit anyone who is dedicated to the collection. All they gotta do is sign up. If they don't want to, it's their own choice. The world isn't against you, not every parcel is a broken figurine and it gets replaced anyway. I see no negative in subscribing.
-CBR Beast...again
Assumptions. again. You have asked EVERY person who buys from shops why they don't subscribe? Because EVERYONE is in the same boat?
If EM charge you twice...then they will refund you. They ain't fraudsters. Perhaps people themselves are to blame inputting details wrongly.
Damages...again...they get replaced. I had one damaged figurine this whole time. Sure, others may not be as lucky, but how impatient must you be to not wait for them to send a replacement. I didn't have to do anything accept contact them, and they sent a new one for me.
You think that newsagents have some sort of magic delivery service that makes their packing invulnerable?
I think the election samples are much larger in number and so are more reliable, Mighty Marvel. And I do remember these surveys being wrong, too. The day before the 1992 election, according to the polls, Labour had a 5 per cent lead. The next day it was announced that Major won for the Conservatives. I remember it very, very well as I hate the Tories more than I hate Gene Colan.
When the forum, with its usual wrong-headedness - let's have Drax in jeans; that look should last a while! (NOT!) or let's have all our Asgardians in classic dress; well, except ONE, that'll cock up my Asgardian display! - decides on Gamora, I'll come on and outline a reasoned argument why classic should be the way to go with Gamora. Hopefully, Rich, Dan and others will take logical reasons over a poll.
jinx
and ebayseller wouldnt work. EM would have to pay crazy prices to ship to the US and then they would have to hire a bunch of people to keep up with the demand.
But anyway, sounds like most people havent subscribed because of 'horror stories' from these blogs and forums. While buying from a shop can be safe as in if its broke, you can give it back to them...its no different than dealing directly with EM. Infact, ordering from a shop, if its broke, they might give less of a sh1t about it because they are ordering it especially for you.
Really, it makes no sense whatsoever.
Jinx - lets no forget eBay charges for selling through eBay, and paypal charges for using paypal.
The prices would have to be very expensive for a figurine, more like £9.99 to make the same sort of profit margins they get from regular buyers. And then they would have to top it off with about £10-£20 for postage costs, depending if its straight forward airmail, recorded delivery, whatever. Its very pricey.
Cant EM get free advertising in all the Marvel UK comic publications? Or some sort, any advertising?
(last comment for a while now...honest.)
Why can't EM advertise in comic books and magazines?
I've had to go to various outlets to buy the entire collection, but thankfully there are many online stores that carry them in the US as well as some specialty stores.
Using eBay for U.S. orders:
eBay would require a higher price due to a shipping fee. If this is how I discovered the collection, I would not have gotten into it. I was even hesitant about the $12 a figurine. Or EM could sell them for a much lower price so the shipping balances out, but they'd lose too much profit.
Subscription Incentives:
Giving out special figurines to subscribers would mean that non-subscribers wouldn't get them, obviously. I collect EVERY figurine from Marvel. I'll even get ones I don't like, like Thunderbird and Forge. But if I knew that there were figurines out there that I was missing and would have to pay a boat load on eBay to buy from a subscriber across the pond... I wouldn't... couldn't do it. And if there's a hole in my collection, I'll start picking and choosing after that. Why buy a crap character like Forge or Longshot when subscribers are getting a coveted Howard the Duck for free?
The Best Solution?
Let me put that in a new post...
I'm a subscriber from day 1, and I have to say in the 6 years of collecting I've only had 2 (minor) breakages which were dealt with very quickly and one incident of being incorrectly charged which was redeemed the next day without me having to raise the issue. In my opinion EM have been fantastic and I'm sure this is the case for the majority of subscribers. Unfortunately they have been tainted by a few negative comments which seem to have stuck in people's heads.
That aside I do think EM are not as receptive to their subscribers as they could be, for example it would be nice if they sent out a form to every subscriber asking who they would like made and then make the one who is the most popular. Otherwise they could have a poll where you vote for your top 5 characters and submit that with your subscription number. Either way it would show some good will to the loyalty and support shown by us subscribers.
I don't think a free character to all subscribers is fair to those who cannot get the subscription or are overseas.
I'll get my tin hat.
Best Solution for EM? ADVERTISE!!!
As MANY others have pointed out, FP has figurines sitting out for people to see. Other comic shops don't. Most (and I mean MOST) in the US don't. I happened across The Shocker in a store I'd never been to, and this was about 5 years after the collection had been going!!! I went back to my comic book guy the next Wednesday and asked him about it. He said he can start ordering it for me through Diamond, but he never got any in his store because he doesn't get enough walk through traffic.
If people don't know the collection exists, they're not going to buy it. They CAN'T. They don't know they can!
Ads in comic books are one thing... I mean, that's your target audience right there. Comic Cons? You're more feeding into the most hardcore crowd anyway. I don't know that that's going to really hook a lot of new people. I would say the way to go is interviews with comic book websites.
Get an interview on Newsarama.com and tell them all about the collection and the new characters coming out.
If you don't tell people about this product, they won't know about it or where to get it. Its a very specific product and can be confusing. Advertise.
Problem with any advertising is the cost, wether that be on TV, online or in magazines.
EM tried to run a poll on here many moons ago and that , putting it bluntly, was a farce because EM simply do not have the staff to monitor who has voted for what. overnight a single (mediocre) character received a vote almost every 2 minutes. it was folk at SHFF that pointed this out to Rich and suggested which members on here had the multiple accounts.
Polls are always going to be a compromise and the discussions on here show that a poll is good if it is your choice that wins, but it is the work of the devil if YOUR choice is behind.
Forums, and forum votes give EM a fair idea of what will or won't sell; ultimately the decision is theirs to do what they want with the information.
the Gamora poll is a good example of how EM will have a choice on their hands, it really isn't a clear cut result so one way or they other 1/2 of the collectors (in general) will be disappointed. where it comes to an even split then the other factors will be taken into account (painting a full-body fishnet costume will NOT be easy).
As for shenanigans as some have said, we do our utmost to minimise this. the Mods / Admins ALL vote prior to the members, and like you, we have our favourites that we want, BUT , just like you we have a mind of our own and vote fairly. There may be some cross-group vote just as there is in the main members as characters come to the fore that we as individuals may not have considered. Rich trusted us implicitely to run the polls: EM get a massive amount of free market analysis and although a 100-200 votes may seem low given the size of the market we provide about twice as many results as companies like L'Oreal and Maybelline use . These companies are forced by law to publish how many people are surveyed (just watch the TV adds)
I for one definitely had to resort to eBay to buy all the back issue characters since I started collecting very late. Again, I came across these figurines in a specialty comic shop. EM should advertise in comic books, comic shops, magazines, etc.
Another EM praise from a subscriber. Seriously guys, have you not subscribed purely because of some horror stories that have been made to sound worse than it actually was?
Sounds like other subscribers are not feeling enough is done for subscribers and want incentives. I have said all along about polls in magazines for subscribers, much like the bill forms we get, so it would be relatively cheap. I'd even be happy to pay for the stamp myself, no freepost necessary.
Not all forbidden planets have the figures out on display. The cardiff one doesnt. It has all the magazines crammed in a box, damaged and frayed, bent and unattractive. The figuinres...no where to be seen. You have to ask to see them.
Advertising is not as expensive as you think, and depends on where you go. TV is obsviously a lil expensive, but can be cheap in the low thousands. Maybe if EM allow advertising in the mags, they can get a mutual deal for advertising themselves. Sometimes we had a leaflet about cheap books...but the CMFC wasnt on the leaflet. Should do a deal that it is, as the leaflet is no doubt in many other magazines.
Lets get back to the point. Subscriber numbers are what the collection balances on, says Dan. Now, lets not assume anything that wasnt written...
HOW WOULD YOU BOOST SUBSCRIPTION NUMBERS?
-we know EM can't do deliveries and subscriptions to the US. So thats out the question.
-what would get YOU to subscribe?
-What would keep you subscribing?
That is the issue. I say incentives. New subscribers are needed from the core collectors and you have to twist their arms and make it worthwhile enough for them. They obviously don't mind paying a lil extra going to their local shop, so something else must be done.
-either exclusive figurines, be it different costumes, resulpts of old characters (ghost rider on bike, goblin on glider, original cap britain etc)
- official poll questionnaires that get listened to. (you have sent out questionnaires before, and subscribers would appreciate their voices heard. (ie - subscribers picked character. Subscribers polled for a character. Available to everyone, but is picked by subscribers. Whether its through a poll of 20, or free range.)
Incentives I think are the key. Are there ways to have incentives to get people to subscribe without others feeling left out? I think there is, but like I said, what would get YOU to subscribe?
robert - i think its something like a poll sample of 1000 has a margin of error of 3% for the whole population. so a poll sample of 100 - 200 is going to be reasonably accurate for the collectors of the CMFC. of course, some polls are wrong. but they're more often right. that's why people still bother to use them.
write something to say why classic is better, heck everyone who likes the classic can write something. but its likely that for every 2 people writing something supporting the classic, you'll get 3 people writing something supporting the modern.
,,Still, do Eaglemoss intend listening to a mere 83 people when thousands buy this collection?"
Better EM listen to a few yelling guys from blog? There are voting also people who wants classic look, so stop yelling.
83>57
TGR - companies are not 'forced by law' to provide their survey information. The advertising regulation agencies make sure that every fact that companies make are backed up. Thus the small print.
They don't HAVE to do surveys and put it in their ads, but when they do successful surveys obviously they will, but like I said, they have to provide evidence to the advertising agencies that it is fact and not just made up.
Is the forum polls as reliable? Its hard to say. Multiple accounts may still trickle through, then you got people voting in packs for each other, collectors quitting forums because of the company there, not everyone even collects every figurine so how valid is their opinion if they are not guaranteed to buy the product, its hard to fully say how reliable it is.
Dan said they use it as a rough guide, but polls to get characters in shouldnt be from the forums, it should be choosen by subscribers.
TGR, Your reputation as a liar goes before you and I'm not sure all that many here would take your word for it if you told them which day of the week it was.
You have no power here, and your pompous moral tone may suit the forum very well, but is utterly sickening here.
Now jog on, there's a good lad.
Thatis fair comment Laway, but a medium sized sample is better than no sample.
Look back at what major decisions EM have made based on polls. They have also gone against the grain on occasion and perhaps regretted it. How well did the superman statue sell??
I remember being asked by Alan Cowsill about price points for Specials and Mega Specials, results came back and we now have these sizes of figs in the collection. Same with double packs, EM had no idea if they would sell or not, we provided them information on which to act.
it's not just CMFC either.. Look art DC collection, subsets was spawned from an idea on the forum, and three weeks ago DC was going to end, some sat around and did bugger all whilst others made it known there was life in it yet.
Some folk don't like the well fine, it is a free world, but it is funny how many on here that slate us are members still (some under alter-egos ...).
EM staff are not stupid, they can see a 100 or so reasoned responses via the forum as to why something is good or bad, or they see six or seven guys on here shouting loudly, stamping feet and generally behaving like children ...I know what my money would be on for accurate data. :-)
Incentive to boost subscriber numbers?
(Assuming in the first instance that the subscriber numbers are dipping)
(and just for the record, have received two broken figs, FFF and Lady Deathstrike, both replaced free of charge after a phone call and I didn't even have to send the old ones back. )
I also rang to get my subscriber Spiderman replaced after my son dropped it, as there was no price attached on the computer, they replaced it FOC, so, as a subscriber, I would say EM are pretty good.
Now, Incentive :Revisit big hitters with fresh sculpts, (maybe first 20 characters) and intersperse with likes of Molecule Man, Magma ....and others beginning with M....
like I say, assuming this is a discussion that is necessary
LAWay: Agree entirely. If a way could be found for subscribers to have a bigger say that would be far more democratic.
Forum poll results have had a curious habit of producing the "right" results, and if they don't come up with the goods appear sometimes to be gerrymandered until they do. Lockjaw in the specials poll a year or so back is a good case in point. A strong second to Sauron, so the poll was mysteriously restarted.
I've seen more than one occasion where some forum members have very confidently called the results early and been proved exactly right, down to the finishing order. Pure luck? Finger on the pulse? Let's be kind and say yes.
There's no perfect answer to the voting issue, but I hope now the previous EM incubent has gone and we seem to now have a guy in charge very much with his own mind and strong personality things will move away from the forum being seen by EM as the be all and end all of CMFC opinion.
It's a place with many fine posters, but is still a small sample of buyers.
I'm not yelling, Tomas. THIS IS YELLING! I've actually stated my position in reasonable, if passionate, terms.
Bald facts like trusting the forum left us with a situation where we have a classic Thor, Loki, Enchantress and Odin and a modern Balder.
We have a classic Adam Warlock and Moondragon (to come), and yet we have modern Drax and will probably get a modern Gamora.
Would it not make more sense to have them all classic?
Or do I really need to yell so you get the rather simple facts I'm trying to get across?
mgf: "You have no power here, and your pompous moral tone may suit the forum very well, but is utterly sickening here.
Now jog on, there's a good lad."
That was incredibly rude. Am I the only one that was shocked by that?
"not everyone even collects every figurine so how valid is their opinion if they are not guaranteed to buy the product"
Granted, the subscribers and completists are the ones supporting EM the most, However, someone that only buys a few figurines and still votes? They're voting for the few figurines they'd actually buy. This is the casual buyer and shows them what will sell more to the general public.
I can see this from both pints of view. I buy all of the Marvel characters, so obviously I would like to think my opinion matters a bit more. I'm putting in the money. I should have a say. However, I only buy the Batman characters and a few choice others in DC, so again, I'd like to think my opinion matters a bit more... as it brings in some extra revenue for each character that suits my specific tastes. If they have another extension and Black Mask, etc. isn't in it, I probably won't be sending any money EM's way.
So it works both ways. Both are legitimate reasonings.
And I have to clear this up; people keep complaining about the forum putting Drax through. I don't ever remember a poll for that. I think that was an EM thing. And it mostly came from the fact that old Drax would have to be a Special and he's a bit low in the running order. It was decided to release him as a Regular to get him in easier (as well as all the other back and forth decisions we have with these type of characters...)
If we still don't have Blastaar, Terrax or Lockjaw, we'd definitely still be waiting on a Drax Special.
And of course, for every view there's a counter view. Robert sees the Cosmics and wishes Drax was Classic. I look at Warlock and wish the opposite. But at the very least, having a mix of costumes will please various people on different levels, rather than onyl pleasing half and exiling the others. Robert and I both love Warlock and Drax. I'm glad he got one and I got the other, even if we're not too keen on the 2nd fig.
Oh, I don't believe you were referring to me when you said forum members come on here and criticise the forum, Grim. However, just for the record, and for new guys who might not know the truth, I have never been a member of the forum.
No snarky comments, thanks.
P.S. The deleted comment above was mine. I mistakenly called the forum the blog.
Robert, I think you have misinterpreted my post. The point I wished to make was this: ANY poll , no matter what it is for will only be a good poll in ones eyes if it reflect ones wishes, if it does not reflect ones preference then it is the work of the devil.
I used the word YOUR in my original post, that was not aimed at you personally but a "your" in general.
Also references to "backward children" is EXTREMELY offensive and if you wish to insult me then do so with another phrase please.
What I suggest people do is refer back to some of the earlier blogs on here where the EM staff have taken the time to explain why certain characters have been represented in one costume as opposed to another. The "classic" in CMFC went a long time ago.
John, don't fret about MFG, he is rude and ignorant by default, he can't help it.
Okay, point taken, Grim. I kind of regretted my analogy as soon as I posted it and should have trusted my gut and deleted it. I'll go back and correct that mistake.
I did however take greatest offense with the following, frankly self-righteous, statement: "EM staff are not stupid, they can see a 100 or so reasoned responses via the forum as to why something is good or bad, or they see six or seven guys on here shouting loudly, stamping feet and generally behaving like children ...I know what my money would be on for accurate data. :-)" That's what irritated me so much. I have been giving reasons for my position and you have just ignored or dismissed them and then called me a child. I think there's wrog on both sides, although admittedly more on mine.
150 Votes in now. Current results:
Original - 40% [ 60 Votes ]
Modern - 60% [ 90 Votes ]
Total votes : 150
fair call Robert, sorry if you took it that way (both even now ;-) ) ....you are not one of the "shouters" your arguments are logical and reasoned and your responses to questions are also sensible. It doesn't take "one" long to scroll back and see those that my response DOES apply to LOL..
The kind of debate you generate would fit in with the forum, no harm in trying it , if you don't like it you would be free to leave and we won't steal your soul .
Okay, Grim. I'm sorry things got a bit out of hand. I interpreted you as saying I was a "shouter" as Tomas had quoted me just before you and called me a shouter then. I thought you were agreeing with him.
I appreciate the invitation. Especially as I've been critical of the representational nature of the forum. I can't help feeling that it would probably be hypocritical of me to join, though. Say hi to Bob for me if you "see" him. He's one of my favourite guys but he's been quiet of late, so maybe he's spending a lot of his time with you guys.
By the way, you wouldn't want my soul anyway. Like Mephisto with the Surfer, you'd find out it wasn't quite in the condition you thought it was. :)
Even though it's pretty clear what way the wind is blowing, thanks for updating us, CBR Beast.
all's cool.... :-)
Well, I've caused enough havoc for one night. Off to read some 1970s Caps in anticipation of seeing the film tomorrow night with my little brother, who I hardly ever see. It's gonna be a great day. Hot dogs and Coke with my rather wonderful wee bro and then we watch Captain America hitting Hydra goons with his shield. Doesn't get any better than that. Night, folks. :)
What was that about forumers predicting forum poll results? And who called the 40/60 split? Haha. I got it exactly! ;)
I still don't know that a 20% difference says too much though, even if it IS in my favor. I'm sure EM will make the best call.
What EM have to decide is this; based on a 60/40 split will those who voted against the "winning" costume still buy the figurine. Personally I would but there may be those that won't.
There will be a lot of votes for one or the other (as we only gave the two choices) where the voter only has a marginal preference for their chosen costume and there will be some who adamantly detest a particular costume. Polling is not easy, we never said it was, if EM want finer detail on the questions all they need to do is ask. :-)
theirs not much incentive for new subscribers.. you get a folder & a plinth. not really going to wow people in with that im afraid especially when rhino, thor etc are constantly unavailable aswell
Ah, the plinths. Does anyone still use them? They took up a lot of space even when the collection was only going up to sixty. Now we are heading towards 200 (and counting), does anyone have the space to display the collection like that? Any CMFC displays I've seen have been stepped platforms in glass cabinets. I don't even have space for that: mine are along the edges of comicbook shelves. Not ideal, I'll admit.
Are the two final characters Shaman and Stingray then?
I didn't realise Dan had made his decision already.
Can someone confirm please?
Thanks, Navaho
Hey Robert ive got about 26 of those bad boy plinths in use although i think the wifes put a four cabinet limit on me so i may have to stop using them when the collection hits the 250 mark.
http://archangelsrukscustoms.blogspot.com/
hi, Archangel. Couldn't see the plinths you mentioned... Saw your incredible customs, though. I was especially taken with Thundra and, to my surprise, 3D Man. I wasn't fussed about him till I saw your custom. Now I'd quite like him... :)
i don't understand why anyone would want so many boring x related females at the expense of far more visually interesting super villains.this extension has had no ff character yet so we should see trapster,blastaar,thundra or diablo.and about x characters being the most popular at forbidden planet where i shop they still have copies of x-23,snowbird and x-man,and it's not hard to see why.this extension has had only 2 really classic villains,owl and hammerhead,and they hardly have very interasting costumes unlike whirlwind,whiplash,tarantula,killer shrike,death adder etc.
Yeh, I thought it was abit out of line too John. Figured the two must have some issues in the past.
TGR was quite insulting himself, saying the debates we have on here wouldnt be good enough for the forum and that we are mostly just loud people with irrelevant opinions compared to polls on the forum.
What. a. joke.
I am proud that I am one of those who stomp their feet and shout TGR. You can debate on the blog, and there are alot of good and different views on here. On the forum, you get ignored and everyone just agrees with each other. Any form of negativity and you are jumped on and bitched behind their backs like some petty school bullying.
Better feedback? I would much prefer to talk with 10 people and get real opinions than listen to a mass anonymous poll.
Good points raised about the plinths. Who can really afford to buy that many to display all the figurines...and also the room for them.
I thought it was a great free gift to display my favourites in the beginning, but now it seems pointless with so many characters.
Maybe something different should be offered.
People still have said what would make them subscribe if they don't already? I think it could be down to stubbornness to not admit that subscribing would be the better option.
A few people have mentioned how great EM's service has been, and a few have relied on other's horror stories not to subscribe. Not many actually posting their horror stories...and EM is missing out.
The plinths (initially) were a god idea but as has been said most are consigned to the loft or eBay.
I use the plastic stepped stands and maybe (for future collections) EM could consider offering those instead as they work quite well in cabinets or on shelves.
someone mentioned advertising...I doubt EM would spend any money at this stage on advertising the CMFC, they either have hit their target market and are quite happy or will accept that no significant numbers are going to subscribe afresh this far in to a part-work.
That said, I do know of a couple of avid fans that did join late (around issue 40) and they took out TWO subscriptions; one starting at issue 5 or 6 and the other at starting at issue 20; once they had caught up with the rest of us they cancelled the initial sub.
I joined the LOTR collectors late in, I could have subscribed but chose not to and picked up 90% of the figurines off eBay at a fraction of the cost; including the subscriber only pieces and a couple of rare ones that were only released in Germany I believe.
@Robert thank you for the compliment glad you like them.
Heres the plinths in action should really update the picture though since its grew to before mentioned 4th cabinet.
http://archangelsrukscustoms.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2010-11-21T04%3A38%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=7
@LayWay The plinths are pretty cheap now on ebay normally some one given up using them selling a few off in bulk so pick up 3 or 4 for the price of em's one.
@ Grim hey fella long time. Horror collection had a stepped plinth im pretty sure of that when they done there trial period.
Thanks, Archangel. Very impressive. My comics take up what attic space I have, so I don't have room for a dedicated cabinet for the CMFC. Always kind of jealous of folk who have enough display room. Sometimes I go on to the shelf porn section on the CBR Comics website and a few collector's have a display area my whole house could squeeze into...
Yeah i know the feeling. Luckily the missus is understanding enough with the cabinets not sure how long that will last though :)
I love plinths, they really set the figures off imo. I am filling my 19th now and have another 4 sat waiting. All picked up 2nd hand via Ebay for decent money so Arch is spot on.
Space is a big problem no argument.
http://therumorbuster.com/board/index.php?topic=1428.msg19391#msg19391
Constant forum Vs blog arguments.
Just join and use both ? If you dont want to join in discussions on the forum at least have your say via the polls and lists.
Archangelsr, those customs are AMAZING!!! Like Robert, I was especially blown away by 3-D Man, and I'm also hoping to see Constrictor and Bengal make the collection soon.
Nice work!
Hello Dan and everybody, I hope we don't get Shaman in a out-stretched hand pose though. It seems to be the only idea EM sculptors can come up with for magic characters (Dr Strange, Dr Fate, Mephisto, Spectre, etc). I really like the idea from a while back of him sitting/floating but failing that I would at least hope for something a bit more original then what has to be one of the most used poses of both collections.
Cool to hear the modern Gamora costume is winning and I never had a doubt it would not.
Hope to hear that Shaman and Deathbird (or Sage) will be confirmed soon. The only thing that spoils this extension is the lack of female characters.
it's already 4 females and after the forum poll it will probably be 6, pretty much one third of the extension. the simple fact is that there are less female characters than male in the MU. if extensions are overloaded with females eventually you will get an extension with either 0 females or poor female characters put in just to make up numbers.
personally i feel that, as long as the 2 females get in from the forum poll (which is very likely), then the extension will have about the right balance of male:female. and if they don't get in then it can just be corrected in the next extension.
SHAMAN and TRAPSTER on friday please dan like you were planning.
Honestly 4-5 women per extension is about the right number. If they did 10 women and 10 men, we'd run out of prominent females a lot faster than we would males. So I'm thinking the current division is pretty decent.
I agree with MM and Beast.
Shaman and TRAPSTER, please. ;)
A Look Back:
1 - 20 - 4 Females:
Phoenix
Storm
Elektra
Black Cat
21 - 40 - 3 Females:
Rogue
She-Hulk
Mystique
41 - 60 - 6 Females:
Invisible Woman
Medusa
Kitty Pryde with Lockheed
Emma Frost
Polaris
Scarlet Witch
61 - 80 - 5 Females:
Spiderwoman
Psylocke
Black Widow
Ms. Marvel
Crystal
81 - 100 - 3 Females:
Lady Deathstrike
Valkyrie
Blink
101 - 120 - 7 Females:
Hellcat
Viper (Madame Hydra)
Dazzler
X-23
Tigra
Jocasta
Jubilee
121 - 140 - 4 Females:
Enchantress
Titania
Snowbird
Wasp
141 - 160 - 8 Females:
Silver Sable
Marvel Girl
Firestar
Destiny
Songbird
Moondragon
Spiral
Siryn
161 - 180 - 8 Females:
Photon
Magik
Shanna the She-Devil
Arachne
Sif
Mockingbird
Domino
Nico Minoru
181 - 200 - 4 So Far:
Hela
Moonstone
Dani Moonstar
Gamora
So yeah, we have had two very female heavy extensions. But that was making up for some of the extensions that only had a couple. I think those times we got 8 was a bit female heavy. Though I love everyone that they've made. 4-6 does seem a lot more balanced, so we're not running out of prominent women before the collection ends.
Now the fact we still don't really have a female Special, outside the long delayed Aurora is another thing. Where's Madame Web? :)
I want another female pick from you Dan and it was interesting to read your post about entensions been decided 30 issues before the end of the current extension.
This extension needs strong popular characters to push us through the 200 issue mark.
The top 4 women are Wolfsbane, Deathbird, Sage and Selene but they are also 4 of the most fan voted for characters based of the polls. All have polled much highter than Trapster.
P.s
Mighty Marvel, can I borrow your crystal ball sometime you seem to constantly know what's going to happen in the future with relation to characters selection and poll results
And Robert makes four. Never understood the notion that we should have a gender balance in the collection when MU heroes are predominantly male.
So we have 8 girls in the last 2 extensions and only 4 this one, that's a huge drop in female numbers.
Can you go with one of the top 3 women -
WOLFSBANE
DEATHBIRD
SAGE
they all need to be done and all would look better than just another bloke.
Plus why don't you show the marketing department the poll and fan request results from the last big poll and that newer 181 to 200 request poll and let them see who the majority of fans who voted want to be spending their money on.
WOLFSBANE, SAGE AND DEATHBIRD all got alot more support.
And? If they loaded the collection only with the most popular and aimed for gender equality... the collection would have ended a lot sooner as they started to scrape the bottom of the barrel for good female characters. They need to space things out some. That's why they toss in characters that arn't the top vote getters. Because the tops of the polls can be the prominent characters in the next expansion. It's all about balance.
Count me in for Shaman and Trapster this week.
FF need a character in the extension.
@ CBR Beast. i completely agree.
"Because the tops of the polls can be the prominent characters in the next expansion. It's all about balance."
Seconded. Trapster brings that balance.
"Can you go with one of the top 3 women -
WOLFSBANE
DEATHBIRD
SAGE"
We're going to get two or three of them anyway. Then NEXT extension will be nothing but complaints. Saving the higher characters for the following extension ensures people come back for the big name characters. So I'd say Trapster is the better pick in this instance.
If I did have to pick a female character, however, I think I'd give my support to Trapster. Paste Pot Pete. Oh, yeah.. he's a male ;) Oh, well. He has my support anyway. :D
hi guys was just wondering what the best figurine deal you guys have ever gettin from ebay? .. mine was off this lady who had listed two white variant captain marvels as "lead hero characters" i contacted her to see which others she had & ended up getting red phoenix, blue angel, two white captain marvels & a red angel for a mere £30 :)
no crystal ball killer frost. just my best guesses from what has gone before and current request poll standings etc. if you notice, i always qualify with something like 'probably' or 'likely to'.
and i agree cbr beast. where is madame web? amazing spiderman is out in july 2012. *cough* special to tie-in *cough*
i got bane and killer croc from the DC collection off ebay for £4 each
oh no.. just got my 1st pack of dc figurines today, batman, robin, flash & joker. ( another ebay bargain lol ), very impressed !! it may be another part of my room will soon be filled :)
The thing with the collection is simple.
If we all want it to last it has to show some form of balance. In that regard if we throw in every singel character that ever tops the polls in each extension what takes us to the next and makes us want to continue?
Thats where em's marketing department comes in. They look at this and think if we put wolfsbane etc in next time we have a lot of people who will keep collecting.
I think the choices Dan has made so far have been sound. I like the addition of Hela and who seen spidey 2099 coming? So let the man continue to lay out his master plan im sure the next two some will love some will hate some will be divided but at least its another little lead person in our collection that some one out there must have had in there top wants :P
Never had to resort to eBay, Jinx. Stan bless the people at FP.
@ mighty marvel. wow that is a good deal indeed. best way to find figurine bargains.. show a figurine to a non collector ( i chose my girlfriend ) & ask them to describe them as if they were selling them. then run that search lol
@ robert. i dont even have a comic book shop in my town :( nor have i ever been in one :). the good thing about me is i'l never be calling for my fave character to be included as.. ( should i say this on here.. ) all the characters i know have already been released as the MU is all new to me. BUT im totally addicted to this collection. their i said it im a NOOB lol
As I usually do, I'm agreeing with Mighty Marvel and Beast. Madame Web should be a Special to tie in with the Spider-Man movie. People want females in the collection so bad? How about the first female Special?! And a Spider-Man character to boot! Very lead-worthy, imo.
And MM, check out Archangelsr's customs blog. He redid the Rogue you've been after.
Thank for Shaman DAN ! But the second choice is DIABLO !!! Answer on Friday...
*sniff* to see the rogue we could have got compared to the thing hiding at the back of my x-men shelf. it brings a tear to my eye
awsome work on your customs archangelsr
I really want Selene so much. Even if she would't be confirmed I really hope for women. There are so many popular female charcter!
Thanks guys the comments are much appreciated.
If Dan were to put through a female, I would like to see Madame Masque. I really am surprised that her and The Hood haven't made it in yet. Especially since they're basically the villain version of the Power Couple in the Marvel Universe. I may have to toss a vote towards her and/or The Hood in the upcoming poll.
glad to see you are still in the customising game Arch...hope things are ok with you :-)
eBay;
What I find unusual is the large number of relatively new figurines out for sale that go for less than EM price....
i can understand someone getting rid of earlier figures to recoup a little money back, but to find 1 month old , £7.99 figures going for £3 plus £2 P&P is just odd (but very good for me :-) )
I agree with people saying that Dan should pick yet another female character friday.
Not only 4 females is a very small number, the most wanted characters in the poll right now are female...so why not pick one of them?
Even if, in the forum poll, all 3 characters picked are females, that would still leave the percentage of males in this extension above 50 %.
Since Wolfsbane is almost a sure poll winner, it'd be a waste to pick her now....so I think Dan should pick Sage!
Meggan or Clea.
Or even curve ball Lionheart.
Paibok sneaking onto the bandwagon as well.
I have noticed that the only people complaining about the lack of women are those desperately impatient for another X-Woman (Selene, Wolfsbane, Sage, Deathbird). No one else seems to be that bothered about it, and think that the extension actually resembles the MU quite appropriately, except for the lack of villains namely a F4 character who would have zero chance in the forum poll against the X-Woman.
The forum poll will probably throw up 2 or 3 x-women anyway.
Ah, Jinx, when I were a young 'un, there weren't even such a thing as comic book shops, at least in Scotland. You had to rely on UK reprint titles (which were B&W but excellent) or root around - usually unsuccessfully - in second-hand book stores for US originals. Now there are five comic stores in Glasgow alone. Yep, changed days from when I was a nipper. One of the other care home residents was saying to me in the main lounge yesterday that they can even make sounds come out of boxes now! Not sure I would like that much. Haunted boxes, they should call them. What an age we live in!
'Not only 4 females is a very small number, the most wanted characters in the poll right now are female...so why not pick one of them?'
Because.
A. They would be voted in anyway
B. Wouldn't leave any choice apart from barrel scraped women in the further extensions. So there would be even LESS next time round.
C. If it was another woman it should be Namora anyway who is owning the Golden Age poll or Mantis.
Mantis!
Heather Hudson. :D
Cheers Grim same old same old.
As for comic stores in Scotland you want to stop hogging them all in Glasgow Robert. Dundee has none, well one sort of but any comic book store that sells womens own and now magazine next to a random (and i mean very random) collection of superhero stuff should not be counted. :)
I think Mantis is a bad idea right now. Especially after all the hurt feelings for Gamora. The last thing we need is another character that divides people and causes fighting. Mantis being popular again due to GotG would mean a lot of love for her modern look, just like with Gamora. And we don't need that situation again until next extension.
And while I would love Namora, Dan already decided to hold off on the Golden Age character until the next extension. So hopefully she makes it in next time. Along with one or two other members of the GotG.
Err, one or two other members of the Agents of Atlas I mean.
Balanced characters is sort of an iffy subject. All of you say you will buy any character, and infact, love that the more 'obscure' for lack of a better word, the better.
So really, EM should hit all the biggest and best names first and foremost. Judging by what people say, they will be sticking around anyway no matter how obscure the characters get.
Makes me wonder about the DC revival and the boosts of the forum. Why did it fail originally? Lack of subscribers and sales? Then they sign a petition to change EM's mind, or did they get an influx of subscribers?
I just worry that forum members 'say' they want it to continue, but none of them intend to subscribe thus resulting in the same outcome. CMFC fans, take note.
ps. Shaman and Trapster were suggested, and only Shaman was confirmed. So I reckon the next announcement wont be Trapster. I'll go for Whirldwind.
"So really, EM should hit all the biggest and best names first and foremost. Judging by what people say, they will be sticking around anyway no matter how obscure the characters get."
people are buying the obscure characters while they're mixed in with the bigger characters. but would as many people stick around once all the biggies are out of the way and it's all obscure characters? it's doubtful.
"Along with one or two other members of the GotG."
"Err, one or two other members of the Agents of Atlas I mean."
:D I'll take both, please. ;)
Oh, jeez, and Dan... Thank you SO much for putting through 3 Cosmics. We've been lacking in Cosmics and you hit all three of the big teams in one extension. I could not have been happier with your choices (unless you picked Rocket, of course, haha) But these confirmations have been amazing. ;)
THUNDRA should be the next female regular!!!!!!!!!
Don't no why EM say she should be a special?after a while back Rich gave us the option of Ronan being a regular instead of a special???
THUNDRA for next female regular!!!!!
High Evolutionary!
Deathbird!!
Jigsaw!!!
Nightmare!!!!
Trapster!!!!!
Selene!!!!!!
Terrax!!!!!!
Darkhawk!!!!!!!
Mojo!!!!!!!!!
I don't know what is so hard about the truth that the Marvel U has more male heroes then females so there can be no actual balance between male & female characters.
Also there are more villains then heroes which is just a fact & even more of them are male rather then female so again there can be no balance there either.
Trying to create a balance that does not exist is just ignoring reality.
Most if not all of the top heroes both male & female have been done but many of the top villains have still not because of this notion of balance that does not exist.
You have what Mantis, Marrina, Wolfsbane, Karma, Nova the ex-Herald left in the heroine area. You have villainesses like Princess Python, Selene, Deathbird, Quicksand, Diamond Lil, Lilith, Thundra, Harpy but they are bad girls. The original Guardians were all guys except Nikki. The Starjammers were all guys except Hepzibah.
The male villains however are:
WHIRLWIND, ATTUMA, BARON MORDO, TRAPSTER, TOMBSTONE, THE COBRA & MR. HYDE, STILT-MAN, TERRAX, DRAGONMAN, THE HIGH EVOLUTIONARY, MASTERMIND, DOOM 2099, THE JACKAL, BLIZZARD, CORNELL COTTONMOUTH, BLASTAAR, THE ENFORCERS (FANCY DAN, MONTANA, THE OX) THE RED GHOST, THE LIVING MONOLITH, MAN-BULL, MR. FEAR, THE MAD THINKER & HIS A.A., MOLECULE MAN, DIABLO, MAXIMUS THE MAD, THE EXECUTIONER, UNUS THE UNTOUCHABLE, THE VANISHER, MESMERO, THE LIVING LASER, THE UNICORN, THE GRIFFIN, THE WRECKING CREW (BULLDOZER, PILEDRIVER, THUNDERBALL), MOLTEN MAN, STEGRON, SILVER SAMURAI, POWERMAN AKA ATLAS, THE SCARECROW, BARON BLOOD, SPEED DEMON, TITANIUM MAN, BOOMERANG, VERMIN, AIR-WALKER, THE DESTROYER, THE SUPER ADAPTOID, PLANT MAN, THE PORCUPINE, GRAVITON, COUNT NEFARIA, GRIZZLY, MAN-APE, IRON MONGER, BLACK TOM CASSIDY, THE FIXER, IMMORTUS, RAMA-TUT, SWARM, JACK O'LANTERN, THE JESTER, THE EEL, RATTLER, THE GREY GARGOYLE, SMART ALEC, THE ORIGINAL BAD GUY BLACK KNIGHT, THE ROSE, THE HUMAN FLY, TARANTULA, NIGHTMARE to name a few.
BALANCED? BAH HUMBUG!!
ADD THE MELTER & JIGSAW!! DAMN MEMORY!!
As I said acting as if this is it & knowing none of the villains I support will make it in the forum vote I want to see a WHIRLWIND figure. I know TRAPSTER finishes up the FRIGHTFUL FOUR but I think WHIRLWIND will look better as a figure.
If there is another extension which I beg the powers that be at EM to please do another & another I believe TRAPSTER would definitely be in that one &
DAN the MAN has already promised THE JACKAL & THE HIGH EVOLUTIONARY in the next so I'm pulling for WHIRLWIND now.
Thundra or Nova (Frankie) is a good solution for both: F4 and female category :)
Namorita was a member of the F4 too, so it's gotta be her :D.
Hey, I had to try it. A man can dream...
Lyja Laserfist was also a F4 member and would love to see her in.
Why the need to add high amounts of female characters? To show equality? To attract or please female fans? Or maybe because some male collectors are just kinda pervy.
As long as the sculpts are good, I really dont mind all too much. But then again, thats largely the problem.
Captain America movie is great, guys. Highly recommended. Some cracking nods to the fanboys and Stan's cameo is the best yet.
My wishes:
Binary, Strong Guy, Goblin Queen, Count Nefaria...
Corsair & Hepzibah 4 Starjamers.
Moira MacTaggert & Proteus 4 Muir Island.
Meggan 4 Excalibur.
Marrina and Heather Hudson 4 Alpha Flight.
Lockjaw and Maximus the Mad 4 Inhumans.
Boom-Boom, Rusty Collins, Rictor & Skids 4 X-Terminators.
Sunspot, Wolfsbane and Karma 4 New Mutants.
Doug Ramsey (Cypher), Magma & Warlock 4 New Mutants.
Here's the latest update:
Original - 38% [ 64 Votes ]
Modern - 62% [ 104 Votes ]
Total votes : 168
Hopefully we'll hit 200 voters before the polling period ends. That would give us a nice cross-section to extrapolate from.
EM said the old costume would be a problem to make. New costume becomes a clear winner? Hmmmmm....;)
(just stirring. New costume is sexier, and like i said, alot of pervy guys like miniture figurines of women.)
I don't trust the polls though. You get me 200 comments from each individual person stating their preference on this blog and I'll believe you. Anyone can click a button. Doesnt mean they are going to buy it, or that they prefer it more or whatever. Some people just like clicking the button to find out results, whether they like the character, the costume, or even the collection.
So yeh, polls I don't have much faith in. Post in the official blog, and you may change my mind.
(ps not that I care about the gamora results anyway, I really wouldnt mind either. So this is not a disgruntled rant, but just my views on internet polls and the collectors in general.)
wait...if admitting thinking the newer costume is sexier...am I admitting to being one of those pervy collecters?!
Bugger...
LOL
Isn't it amusing how people seem to imagine these dark and sinister conspiracies and legions of cheaters whenever it's a choice they don't care for is winning? Yet if it was classic Gamora on top, you guys would be heralding it from the rooftops as a clear mandate from the masses. Sounds a lot like any election anywhere. Thank god it's not the vote for the Prime Minister, you guys would be foaming at the mouth. Me? I'm voting for Harriet Jones. :D
Laway, don't know if you have beenon the Gamora Poll on the forum but a few things to clear it up for you.
1. The poll is set so that a member can only click ONCE, it does not allow multiple clicks.
2. We check very stringently for multiple accounts.
3. If you pop on there you will see at least 3 pages of comments as to why people have voted the way they have.
HTH
"DAN the MAN has already promised THE JACKAL & THE HIGH EVOLUTIONARY in the next.."
Just to clear something up, Dan never promised anything. He's been very careful with his words and tends to use "likely" or "probably" or
"High Evolutionary is definitely one of our favs, and he is in my list, he just didn't make it in THIS extension."
These are two that I'm rooting for, but I just wanted to make sure people knew Dan hasn't promised them to us. Same with Maximus the Mad.
i totally agree with Paibok and lonchaney,there are hardly any big name females left so they should be left for later and some more villains done instead as there are more villains in the M U than females and they are better visualy,and very under represented.
Did a bit of a count and...
50 of the 155 (released so far) regulars are Villians, thats about 1 in 3.
8 of the 16 specials are villians, thats half.
4 of the 5 Mega-specials are villians thats 80%.
Of course i could be wrong, one mans villian is another mans hero or something like that.
I think the ratios of both females and villains are about right for the collection.
As has been mentioned there are not as many prominant women in the MU as men so it makes sense that the collection reflects that. Looking at Beasts breakdown of females per extension I think 5-6 this extension will be spot on.
As for villains. The trouble with them is ones the big names are gone (Magneto, Mystique, Kang, Ultron) ect you start getting to the ones who only show up for an arc or so and then disappear for another year. Whereas the heros tend to be in continuous books and as a result stack up a lot of history and appearences over the same time frame.
That said it would be nice to get some more villains in, especially from the Avenger and MK side. SpiderMan has done very well for himself and the F4 had a really good extension last time to boost the numbers. After the huge gap between Lady Deathstrike and Pyro the XMen villains are filling out. The only particularly neglected area is the Avenger side of things. But finding pure Avenger foes is hard. Many of them are enemies of a particular member such as Thor, Cap or Iron Man.
As I said in a previous post I hope Dan sticks to his guns and confirms who he was originally going to. I have confidence in this colelction that we will have at least one more extension. Breaking the magical 200 mark will be big achievment. But with the DC collection being extended due to support I think the Marvel one will be safe for a bit.
I wasnt serious about EM being dodgy. Thin kthey try to make the best decisions they can from the bombardment of mixed messages they receive from the blog and forums, and its hard to please everyone.
As for for villains as specials? Well most villains are 'big-guys'. It makes the character intimidating and makes the hero more like an underdog. And of course there are more classic big villains than heroes. If heroes were as large as the villains, then it would be boring as they would easily beat any opponent *cough* superman *cough*. Even with Hulk, even though he is huge, his villains are just as big, or even bigger.
As with forum accounts, I stand by what I said. I have 5 email addresses that I can remember that I have created over the years. I could easily log different profiles with each email address. If I wanted to be extra crafty, I would use 1 on my home computer, 1 on my laptop, 1 on my phone, 1 on my work computer etc to hide my tracks.
I dont believe 200 people have commented on Gamora's appearance. Not everyone who votes on the polls comment. Not all who vote on the polls care for what they are voting for. Thats what I am saying. They are not accurate results because not everyone voting has the best interest in the subject in mind. They are merely voting because they have the option to and want to see the results.
The forum should do a poll on how many people on there subscribe. There should be a subscriber poll to see what those who buy every figurine actually want.
Eg - 20 people on the blog subscribe. A poll is split at A with 6 votes and B at 14 votes. 10 people who don't buy every figurine, and dont intend on buying either A or B decide to vote anyway. They all vote for A. A wins the poll with more votes. EM dont benefit any more because of the data. Those 10 people still wont buy that figurine and the majority of subscribers are understandably upset.
So do polls work and are they accurate? I still don't think so.
Also, not many people have said 'WHAT INCENTIVE WOULD MAKE YOU SUBSCRIBE?'
why?
@ LAWay, variants would make me subscribe TODAY, been thinking about it along time now & have came close to subscribing a few times but changed my mind @ the last second as the incentive isn't very good i.e no rooftop spidey offered anymore.. so i get a plinth & a folder, not enough for me personally.
*Rolls eyes*
Are we back to the stupid 'Only Subscribers Opinions Count' crap again? Cause honestly, that's the most asinine thing I have ever seen. And it seems to crop up whenever certain individuals are unhappy cause their opinions don't override the masses.
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Grem, I think the ratio needs to change in favour of the villains as these next few extensions pan out.
As you say, the villains that we are seeing now appear for an arc and then disappear again but that is the nature of villains in an ongoing comic book series, and here is the thing, the titles they appear in are the likes of Spiderman, Thor, XMen, Avengers, FF. Big selling titles that reach a lot of people and therefore by default are characters that lots of people recognise even if they have made a fraction of the appearances of heroes within an ongoing title like GOTG
For me, I think we need to see more villains and give the heroes from smaller titles a smaller part of the extension.
Oh and Beastie, Dan has already stated that us UK subscribers hold the magic key to your continued reception of further extensions out there in the colonies, so you have to be very nice to us from now on.....
No he didn't. You should go back and re-read his comments. Everyone who buys the collections, from subscribers to the pick-and-choosers, to those who buy from Diamond in the U.S. keep the collection going.
As for the villain discussion, I agree that we could stand with a few more per extension. But I can understand the current ratio. Heroes sell much better than villains in the realm of collectibles. Especially when it comes to superheroes.
I would like to see some of the major villains that have been getting a lot of love from Marvel right now. The Hood, Madame Masque, Ghost, Crossbones. Those four would be a good start.
Subscription numbers only give part of the picture and as such should only be considered as a base-line, especially when you consider that only the UK has access to subscription.
Some of the non-subscribers may well pick and choose, others will be the "completist" and we mustn't forget those who will buy more than one of a particular figure in order to satisfy their need for home-made customs.
In reality Eaglemoss, like any other profit-making company, will look at the overall cash flow not just one aspect of it; if more money is coming in than going out they will continue to extend the collection.
Converting everyone to "subscriber" could have a disastrous effect on the collection; not only do EM have to post out (at a cost) to individual addresses but also have to lose £1 per special, and supply the freebie binder and plinth.
Bottom line, the subscription offer is a hook to draw you in, after that it becomes a less significant factor. Add to the the fact that it is the pick-and-choosers that will have the greatest impact on sales if the figurine offered is a bad choice, not the subscribers, as the subscribers will get it anyway.
Thanks John, for the clarification.
High Evolutionary (and Deathbird) are my two most wanted characters left!
Dan, please PLEASE get High Evolutionary in! :0)
"Everyone who buys the collections, from subscribers to the pick-and-choosers, to those who buy from Diamond in the U.S. keep the collection going."
Hear, hear. I am not a subscriber and yet I have bought the majority of figures, spending what must be over £1000 in the process. That's a hefty financial contribution in my book. I'm sure many - maybe most - non-subscribers are making a similar commitment. The CMFC should be available equally to all whenever they are and every collector should be valued, whether they buy every figure, or characters from only one 'family', or can only afford to buy the occasional figure. I really hate any elitism and stratification of collectors, that if you live in the UK or subscribe then you should receive benefits or special offers. To paraphrase an old Scottish saying, "We're all Stan Lee's bairns (children)."
couldn't agree more
PA
Question for everyone: if Eaglemoss were to make a resin/ plastic quinjet, in scale with the CMFC, would you buy it?
Yes. :D
I would buy a couple for display.
Nice idea.
A bathtub Fantasticar would be better.
Subscriber numbers were the reason the collection got off the blocks in the first place.
Easy to forget. When it suits.
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